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Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/17/2006  10:16:00 PM
After reading some of these threads I begin to see where because the mind is fixed mistakes can occure in a persons abiliy to reading correctly as it was intended to be read. How far do you have to extend your foot behind and go to the tip of the toe,that is the very tip. I can get the tip of the toe on the floor behind me easily in about five inches which can then move to about the width of an ordinary door frame. Because I said go to the tip of the toe some seem to think it means full stretch. The action can be clearly seen in pictures 1 2 3. Backward Walk.
Copy that and you won't be far wrong.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/17/2006  10:53:00 PM
"How far do you have to extend your foot behind and go to the tip of the toe,that is the very tip. I can get the tip of the toe on the floor behind me easily in about five inches"

Sure, in that situation the tip of the toe has nothing to do with step size.

But in a forward walk, how far your back foot develops has a lot to do with step size - there can be no rule that is independent of step size.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/19/2006  2:04:00 AM
Anonymous. In a competition the judges see more of the back foot which should show a neat line to the tip of the toe. This is the line showed by the lady as well as the man. It is actually a picture step.
Look at the pictures. Or look at your DVD's. Look and ye shall see.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/19/2006  3:17:00 PM
"Anonymous. In a competition the judges see more of the back foot which should show a neat line to the tip of the toe. This is the line showed by the lady as well as the man. It is actually a picture step. Look at the pictures. Or look at your DVD's. Look and ye shall see."

In a step large enough to produce this, you will see it. In a step large enough to produce it, you shouldn't see it.

Only a beginner or a sophmoroic bookworm puts details into their dancing simply because they were told to.

In contrast, and actual dancer - an artist - will never show any detail not consistent with the entirity of the artwork they are creating. That means amongst other things that small movement will have different details than large ones, because those details are inter-related with the means of making an action larger or smaller.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/19/2006  3:56:00 PM
Anonymous. Do you have any video of any major championship. Do you ever look at them. Are you capable of seeing what is actually happening. Or do you only see what you want to see. If it doesn't suit your story do you ignore it. If you can't see even on the pictures on this site that there is a very nice leg line to the rear toe, either going forwards or backwards, then something is wrong with you.
In your last paragraph. What on eath are you on about.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/19/2006  9:01:00 PM
"Anonymous. Do you have any video of any major championship. Do you ever look at them. Are you capable of seeing what is actually happening."

Yes - I go through them one frame at a time and verify exactly what is happening - I notice a lot of mistakes on good dancers that way, too!

"If you can't see even on the pictures on this site that there is a very nice leg line to the rear toe, either going forwards or backwards, then something is wrong with you."

When the movement is large enough to create such leg development, then it will be seen. Obviously, championship dancers are more likely to create movement of a size that would legitimately cause this - wheras many of those who hang out here would not create such size movement - if they show that foot articulation, it is more likley to be fake than a natural result of the movement they are taking.

Proprotion my friend, proportion. Until you learn that this is more important than abstract details, you will be a bookworm and not an artist.

In your last paragraph. What on eath are you on about.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/19/2006  10:21:00 PM
Anonymous. It is possible to go to the toe and not take a bigger step than is comfortable,. The knee of the supporting foot will not bend to the 45 degrees that the dancers on your disk are doing. This must be a good learning thing for you. I hope you memorize it or right it down. I think you do because you have changed some of your beliefs from those earlier days. Haven't you.
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/20/2006  7:03:00 AM
"Anonymous. It is possible to go to the toe and not take a bigger step than is comfortable,. The knee of the supporting foot will not bend to the 45 degrees that the dancers on your disk are doing."

So you have just now finally admitted that changing the size of the step will change the details!!!
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Don
11/20/2006  5:28:00 PM
Anonymous. And when exactly did I say that a step had to be certain length. I'm the one who quoted John Wood that from a Promenade position on a Running Weave, if both partners take the same size step at the same time nobody will be able to get in front.They will be stuck
Re: Andrew Sinkinson
Posted by Anonymous
11/20/2006  6:18:00 PM
"Anonymous. And when exactly did I say that a step had to be certain length."

You didn't. However until the post before this one, you were quite ignorantly insisting that the details of the action had to be a certain way regardless of the step size.

Fortunately you seem to have realized that error and admitted that different sized steps will have different details of action.

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